Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

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Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby BuffAngel on Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:05 am

No particular game just all of them.

Its really annoying on any game, when you go around a corner and bam - 1 guard in the middle of an empty corridor with no alarm panels spots me and SMACK the entire population of the planet knows exactly where i am and turns up within 5 seconds.

Why?

Its even worse on stealth games where part of the point of Stealth should be dealing with surprises in a stealthy way. The same goes for using a silenced weapon on someone and an alarm going off because a shot was fired????

Anyone elses views would be appreciated.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Dave Shaw on Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:57 am

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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby BuffAngel on Sat Aug 13, 2011 1:47 pm

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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Johnny Shoulder on Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:01 pm

Buff, it sounds like you would like Dues Ex, thats the kinda thing the devs are striving to get away from.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby The_Deleted on Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:44 pm

Thank fuck.
It's always pissed me off when playing games with a group of NPC team mates that every twat and his mother only comes after you.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby BuffAngel on Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:31 pm

Johnny Shoulder wrote:Buff, it sounds like you would like Dues Ex, thats the kinda thing the devs are striving to get away from.


that would be highly appreciated
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Dark_Star on Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:07 am

BuffAngel wrote:Its really annoying when you go around a corner and bam - 1 guard in the middle of an empty corridor with no alarm panels spots me and SMACK the entire population of the planet knows exactly where i am and turns up within 5 seconds.

Why?


Because your a convicted pedo in a day care centre tip toeing around wearing leather gloves perhaps :lol:
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Tom909 on Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:44 pm

Dark_Star wrote:
BuffAngel wrote:Its really annoying when you go around a corner and bam - 1 guard in the middle of an empty corridor with no alarm panels spots me and SMACK the entire population of the planet knows exactly where i am and turns up within 5 seconds.

Why?


Because your a convicted pedo in a day care centre tip toeing around wearing leather gloves perhaps :lol:


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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Dante3000 on Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:18 pm

I don't think I've had this problem in a game for a while mind, so it must be getting better
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby BuffAngel on Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:11 pm

Dante3000 wrote:I don't think I've had this problem in a game for a while mind, so it must be getting better


Really? Deus ex does it, Skyrim does it, BF3 does it, i bet MW3 does it, even Fifa does it, computer passes the ball between its players and my AI team are no where near for interceptions or pressure, i pass the ball and the comp team is all over me before the ball has reached my desired player. Its just lazy game design.

I would love a new Thief game but this would have to be sorted for it to be any good.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Dante3000 on Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:29 pm

Deus Ex doesn't do it, there is an achievement for not having anyone set off alarms and that's the only way that everyone can know you are around. If noone sets an alarm off then you can kill a few and carry on through without anyone else becoming wary.
MW3 and BF3 probably don't count simply because they lack stealth levels. Or at least unscripted ones.
I can't speak for Skyrim but FIFA is different... not to say what you mention isn't an issue, but that's more because the control is supposed to be in the hands of the player to intercept and whatnot.
Not to be antagonistic or anything :S
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Johnny Shoulder on Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:14 pm

Dante3000 wrote:Deus Ex doesn't do it, there is an achievement for not having anyone set off alarms and that's the only way that everyone can know you are around. If noone sets an alarm off then you can kill a few and carry on through without anyone else becoming wary.
MW3 and BF3 probably don't count simply because they lack stealth levels. Or at least unscripted ones.
I can't speak for Skyrim but FIFA is different... not to say what you mention isn't an issue, but that's more because the control is supposed to be in the hands of the player to intercept and whatnot.
Not to be antagonistic or anything :S

This.

Only when the guards see you or something suspicious in Deus Ex will they enter an alarmed state, and they can only set an alarm off if there is an alarm panel in the vicinity. And you can hack into those and disable em.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby ClownTrousers on Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:22 pm

Johnny Shoulder wrote:
Dante3000 wrote:Deus Ex doesn't do it, there is an achievement for not having anyone set off alarms and that's the only way that everyone can know you are around. If noone sets an alarm off then you can kill a few and carry on through without anyone else becoming wary.
MW3 and BF3 probably don't count simply because they lack stealth levels. Or at least unscripted ones.
I can't speak for Skyrim but FIFA is different... not to say what you mention isn't an issue, but that's more because the control is supposed to be in the hands of the player to intercept and whatnot.
Not to be antagonistic or anything :S

This.

Only when the guards see you or something suspicious in Deus Ex will they enter an alarmed state, and they can only set an alarm off if there is an alarm panel in the vicinity. And you can hack into those and disable em.


THE TITLE OF THE POST IS WHY DO THEY SEE ME WHEN I DISTURB ONE OF THEM.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby Biggs on Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:01 am

I think the opposite is worse, when you get a wet one in plain sight and nobody bats an eyelid. Kinda happens in Skyrim all the time: I stealth-killed a couple of guards the other day, his mates reacted appropriately and zeroed-in on their bodies, sniffed around for a bit then sat back down at the table to eat while the corpses ragdoll-spasmed in the corner.
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Re: Why do all the guards see me when i disturb one of them?

Postby ClownTrousers on Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:09 am

Skyrim's "AI" is fucking AWFUL. My strategy for beating the "bosses":

1. Arrow to the neck from the shadows. Nice bit of health whittling going on there but he's alerted now that there is an arrow embedded in his fucking neck, and rightly so. Here he comes, looking for me.

2. Stay perfectly still.

3. 10 seconds pass. The boss with AN ARROW EMBEDDED IN HIS FUCKING NECK says, "hmmmm, must've been the wind" and goes back to his starting position.

4. Goto 1.
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