F1 2012 - Newer & More improved!!

[Bing]

I've often wondered what F1 would be like if weren't design constraints

[McLaren Fan]

Summer break. Bah, I want more racing!

Out of all the drivers near the top of the championship, Webber is the one I mind losing the lead to the least. His drive in Hungary, bearing in mind how hard he was working those tyres and for how long, was top notch. Apart from a small minus by getting a worse start than Alonso off the grid, he drove faultlessly. And should he win the title, it will be with the full knowledge that his teams owner and 'motorsport consultant' didn't want him to. Although I'm sure Vettel hasn't been playing Alonso's game, the PR disaster that was the fudge after Turkey, shows where the Red Bull brand desires the title to go.

I'm a little disappointed that Martin Whitmarsh has been so vociferous in whinging about the Red Bull front wing. Yes it does flex, but it passes the same scrutineering that everyone else goes through, and is similar to the 'F-duct' in that it is a clever side stepping of the rules. Its what F1 designers do, find ways around limitations without actually breaking the rule in place. Can McLaren develop their way back to the front? The potential is undoubtedly there, but it's a worry that the head of design said they had 'No idea' of how the Red Bull's wing might be doing it's tricks. Hopefully he was just exagerating for effect.

I've often wondered what F1 would be like if weren't design constraints

It would be massively expensive for a start, and you'd have to specify a few limits, just to keep everyone going in the same direction. Would you want open or enclosed wheels and cockpits, wings, maximum levels of downforce? But all the designs would eventually homogenize down to nearly identical, as the most effective designs were copied by the rest of the field. I'd expect something that looks like a more extreme version of Audi's R15. Enclosing the wheels within the bodywork, should make a generally more aerodynamic shape, then it's how you manage to generate your downforce.

[Bob]

So to summarise the 2010 Spa Grand Prix.

Hamilton is, as a driver, in a class of his own.

Webber and Red Bull claim their car is legal but strange how with the new FIA tests it's not as dominantly fast.

Vettel once again shows that he can't over take and he can't come from behind (f'nar f'nar).

[Dark_Star]

The Red Bulls don't have straight line pace everyone knows that, so you can count them out for Monza as well. Hamilton raced well and I hope he keeps it up. Also we need to hook up for some forza or something Bob, even maybe F1 when thats out

[McLaren Fan]

I think it's a little unfair to throw the new FIA test in Red Bull's face at a track where they wouldn't have been as ultra competitive regardless. Yes there is a possibility that changes to their front wing has slowed them down, but they were expecting to be in damage limitation mode for Spa and Monza before the new tests were announced. Although you can hardly accuse Vettel of limiting the damage he's causing! It will be far more revealing to see how the cars perform in Singapore.

Dominant performance by Lewis, even if he had to ride his luck slightly in the gravel trap.

[Bob]

Interesting speculation that all three of Red Bulls accidents (Vettel on Webber, Webber on Kovi and Vettel on Button) are caused by their flexi-wing flexing on more on the side that comes out of the slip stream and making the car un-driveable.

[Bob]

Hallo, my car is on fire I would like to pit.

No, just carry on.

Oh, OK

[QuickBen67]

Hulkemberg WTF?? A whole second in qualifying is like 3 days in real world terms!

[Bob]

Hulkemberg WTF?? A whole second in qualifying is like 3 days in real world terms!

Give him his due he had the raw pace in tricky conditions.

Exciting race so far...

[QuickBen67]

Hulkemberg WTF?? A whole second in qualifying is like 3 days in real world terms!

Give him his due he had the raw pace in tricky conditions.

Exciting race so far...

It has been good. Hamilton is out of it now so hopefully either Vettel or Webber will go on to lift the title.....anyone as long as its not that tosser Alonso!

[Bob]

Hulkemberg WTF?? A whole second in qualifying is like 3 days in real world terms!

Give him his due he had the raw pace in tricky conditions.

Exciting race so far...

It has been good. Hamilton is out of it now so hopefully either Vettel or Webber will go on to lift the title.....anyone as long as its not that ****** Alonso!

If it finishes like this Lewis is still even with a slight chance.

Red Bull are going to fcuk it up by not backing Webber.

[QuickBen67]

Well at least it wasnt Alonso!

[Bob]

Well at least it wasnt Alonso!

My thoughts entirely. He showed what a petulant tw@ he is waving his fist at Petrov after the race.

[Dark_Star]

Great last 2 races for Vettel giving him a deserved title. I also love Alonso's attitude on the track, he does whatever he can to get points hence why he has 2 championships and nearly stole this years against a better car in the Red Bull. All in all I've really enjoyed this season and hope next year we get more of the same.

[Bob]

Alonso is a badger. The fact that he couldn't get past Petrov and then shook his fist at him says all you need to say about a hot blooded spaniard who doesn't like being shown to be not very good by his faster younger team mate.