Fallout 3 Vs Fallout: New Vegas – The Final Verdict
We’ve played them both to death, and now it’s time to reveal which of these sprawling post-apocalyptic action-RPGS is the best
STORY
“In Fallout 3, Washington DC itself felt like a warzone,” Obsidian’s project director Josh Sawyer tells 360 Magazine, “The deeper you moved into the ruins, the more ruinous and volatile it felt. In contrast, New Vegas Strip is an enclave, a proteced zone surrounded by war. While the world outside burns, people on the strip fritter away money gambling.”
It’s a wonderful premise, and one Obsidian doesn’t waste. The Strip is absolutely surrounded (and infiltrated) by so many warring factions, all of whom you can interact with and influence the outcomes of. This means many side quests have the potential to radically alter the whole flow of the struggle, making a truly unique game each time. Fallout 3’s disparate side quests and rattling central plot just can’t compete.
WINNER: FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
GUNS
There’s a lot to consider here, not least that the only way to amass as many weapons as New Vegas offers is to buy all of Fallout 3’s DLC. The almighty Tesla Cannon comes as standard in New Vegas, for one thing, but its apparently higher number of ‘named’ guns (such as the ridiculously powerful handgun Maria or This Machine – the ultimate machine gun) coupled with the changeable weapon types (incendiary bullets, anyone?) makes New Vegas a clear winner on this front.
WINNER: FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
SETTING
“When you look at it, you instantly see things like blues, reds and oranges. Fallout 3 was much greyer, greener and grittier,” Pete Hines, vice president of Bethesda told 360 Magazine. “That blue sky alone makes such a difference to how the world feels and looks compared to Fallout 3.”
We agree, but unfortunately that difference is in a slight dulling of the atmosphere. It’s so bright and vibrant you could almost forget there was a war at all. That’s all fine and all, but we just prefer a bit of radioactive grot. It’s a purely personal choice.
WINNER: FALLOUT 3
HISTORY
A civilization creeping into prominence in the environs of Las Vegas is an eccentric and interesting premise, as armies base themselves around tacky Roman soldier motifs, gangs dressed as Elvis run around maintaining law and order, and the Strip continues to shine like a symbol of the unbeatable human instincts of greed and vice.
However, Fallout 3 riffs so cleverly and often on genuine American history that it wins the clever vote for us, and is an overall crazier place to learn the twisted history of the post-nuclear world.
WINNER: FALLOUT 3
INSANITY
The Wild Wasteland perk automatically opens up some mad events in New Vegas, and the the basis of so many peoples’ communities and mentalities being nothing more than the cheap, glitzy world of Vegas means you’ll meet some very strange people indeed. The more light-hearted, sun-drenched environment ups the fun factor, too.
WINNER: FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
OVERALL WINNER: FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
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Im 21. I love me some Fallout 3 –the setting does not feel tacked on. Personally I find the whole Vegas thing a little wacky (even for a Fallout game)DLC anyone?
This isn’t called Fallout 4 for a reason.
what does the fact that dc is a warzone have to do with the story
Thats the worst comparisson i have seen so far. Wild Wasteland has nothing to do with it and some guns make no sense. Testal canon appearing for cheap price in nearly everyones stock. And the game is very easy even on hardcore when in an hour of playing you earn 1000+ caps comparing to f3 where it took a LOT more time…
Ha, lol, I remember trying to scrape up enough caps for a single stimpack so I could go on a super mutant hunt at Rivet City. I think Fallout 3 is the winner. Fallout New Vegas, I feel like I’m playing an epic game, possibly the best released in the past year (take that Blizzard). fallout 3, I’m not playing a game. I’m living it.
Yeah this comparison is pretty bad and shallow. F3 definitely has a better story. In F3, you ARE a vault dweller. You have a family history, background, personal motivation (find your father), and it’s much more interesting that your character is seeing the world outside a vault for the first time, instead of some random courier we know nothing about.
I will give guns to NV. All I ever really used in F3 was the Chinese Assault Rifle and the Plasma Rifle (when the going got tough.) NV has different ammo types, ammo mods, more unique weapons, ect…
F3 has the best setting, not even arguable IMO. It looks like an actual wasteland. Sometimes I walk around in a shirt and pants with a machine gun to go scavenging so I can make caps. Do this at night alone with the room lights turned off; it’s creepy as hell. NV is, well, just a desert. I wouldn’t have known it was post apocalyptic unless someone told me.
Insanity? Why is that even a category? It doesn’t make sense. I like how someone made a point about the caps and hardcore mode. I thought hardcore mode was a little too easy. I have 750,000 caps in NV right now. In F3, I was proud of myself making it to 3,000 caps. Which one sounds more “hardcore” to you?
Winner: Fallout 3, hands down.
I think that Fallout: New Vegas is much to structured, everybody is in their own little region. You know where to find all the monsters there is no surprises.
In New Vegas there is no huge awesome super monster like The Super Mutant Behemoth just a bunch of little annoying monsters “cazadors”!!!!
It was also much less grim like everything was A ok.
No scare factor like F3.
Fallout 3 wins hands down
Wow Im glad to see some people arguing FOR F3 for the same reasons I felt. As soon as I stepped out of that doctors house into Goodsprings I knew something was different…it was too happy…too much color…apolcalyptic wasteland? I turned the video settings on my tv down to compensate.
New Vegas has a silly factor that Im not too into. F3 almost everyone had grime on their face…it felt real. Not too much clean-faced and shaven types. In NV, as someone else just put it, it doesnt really feel post-apolcalyptic except for some banged up old buildings. Freetown coulda had SOOO much more vagrants and violence if they wanted it be as “scary” as the local say it was.
And Caesar’s Legion? I mean theyre costumes are kinda cool but gimme a break…How did the developers not bust out laughing while conjuring up that stuff?
Setting wise its not just the blue skies and bright cactus flowers…somethings missing in the details of hills and rock formations. I cant put my finger on it but play NV and then jump to F3…u’ll notice it right away. NV is weak in that area…though I do like the ‘dustbowls’ in NV…definite nice touch.
F3 all the way here too…
Things I miss about F3
Your companions saying things at random…not just when scoring a kill(ie Jericho: Am I outta smokes again?!)
NPC’s talking to each other (not much in F3 but some) they seem way more drone-like and lifeless in NV
The little scenarios that u come across in F3…like the skeleton in the tub with a toaster in it…or the bottles set up by a snipers nest in a barn for his target practice…elements that there was life out in the wastes that got shut down suddenly. skeletons rotting behind sandbags with weapons and ammo boxes, trying to fight someone off but losing.
I really felt like F3 was a crazy fked up world…NV lost that element. Its more like a sci-fi fantasy game than a post-apocalyptic survival tale.
It’s nice to see some people with the same opinion as me.
I’ve played fallout new vegas in nearly all different ways that were possible. But i just get the feeling that something just isn’t right. I totally agree that New Vegas has some great new weapons etc..
As many outpointed before, F3 have a special aura around it.
Of course you get suprised when you see the NCR and all the other factions, but it just isn’t the same.
After no more than a month of playing i’m already bored playing F:NV.. As goes for F3, i played atleast a year before i got bored. And now after a long break and a lot of F:NV, i seriously consider playing through the good old F3 once agian.
This is just my opinion, and i know alot dissagree..
But don’t you just miss Megaton? BoS? The Vault? Tenpenny Tower? Rivet City? Fawkes? .. And the massive amounts of good old super mutants to hunt down? (F:NV doesn’t have that many at all)
So ill agree with the other fooks here!
New Vegas is a great game, but it can’t compare with Fallout 3
I can understand you ppl siding with F3. There were a lot of unique elements to it that just aren’t there in new vegas. But New vegas shines when it comes to the sheer ruthless nature of the wasteland. In Fallout 3, the world was basically just divided into good and bad and the choices to make were pretty much straight forward. Plus it had a very linear story. New Vegas just feels so hopelessly lost that siding with either factions will hardly bring any significant change. Thats where choices become much more interesting. The entirety of Fallout 3 did not move me as much as the back story of vault 11 did. I mean you might feel bad after blowing up Megaton, but when you read the note the overseer has written before he walks to his eventual death in Vault 11, it will move you to tears.
Plus the enemies in Fallout 3 seemed way underpowered. A mutant behemoth(considering the sheer size of the monster) should be able to kill any level character in 1 hit. As it turns out it does much less damage compared to the legendary death claw(full of awesome) in New Vegas. Plus Night Stalkers and Cazadors just kick ass and are very scary to confront when in a group. I never had to think so much before taking on a group of super mutants in fallout 3.
So yeah even though i love fallout 3, fallout new vegas according to me is the fallout game to beat. I mean in what other dimension are you ever going to get the chance to rule New Vegas? :p
What makes FO3 better for me is that most of the time you are by yourself wandering around the wastes trying to get to a certain place. But with fallout NV most of the game you have support from differentfactions.Plus, in FO3 the story was based around following your father from vault 101, doing your own thing, but in NV, you are doing things on other peoples behalf. Also, I thought FO3 was more exciting than NV , and you could not tell what was going to happen in 3,all the scary mutants and ghouls and raiders.Raiders? Oh yes,they’ve gone as well!
Overall winner
Fallout 3 :75%
Fallout NV :25%
I must admit, Fallout 3 is the better game by far. The story moved me, the game had an eerie, scary feeling to it; and the voice acting I believe was a tad bit better. Also, I found Fallout 3 to be the harder game, I felt like no where was safe. Though, in NW this was whole different story. Sure, Fallout New Vegas had pretty cool weapon mods and stuff, but the whole feel of the game just couldn’t compare to F3. I mean, I’ve never had so much fun In a video game when I wasn’t playing Tranquillity Lane (F3) However, I think what Boones story about his wife, and how he killed her so she would not have to live life as a Legionary Slave was very moving.
Winner: FALLOUT 3
To be honest, Fallout 3 was a MUCH better game in my opinion. It was completely unique in how it derived an RPG based formula with first person shooting, They developed an amazing story for the east wasteland and the gameplay was incredible. New vegas just copied everything from the last game and while the story was better they just took that from fallout 2(lol). The engine is the same while the graphics somehow got worse. Most of the weapons are the same and there are a lot more glitches. I’m pissed not because New vegas is a bad game but it could have been freaking amazing but obsidian played it safe and created a generic $$$ grabbing game.
I think fallout 3 was better, but damn you people are acting like you’re comparing Jesus to dog shit. Fallout 3 had a ton of flaws, just like New Vegas, and sorry, it’s not like it was that much better than New Vegas. New Vegas was a sick game that had a bunch of elements that were better than Fallout 3, like of course the guns. Another thing you all are forgetting is that a lot more has happened in the Western U.S. than the eastern US in terms of expansion and colonization in the Fallout world. Therefore the wasteland having more settlements and being more condensed fits with the story more. I do like the story of Fallout 3 more, but only because you felt like you actually had a purpose. I remember that I wanted to find my father, and I wanted to bring pure water to the wasteland. With NV, there is a ton more going on and a ton more to do quest-wise, but most of the quests don’t have much going on, and you feel like there is no benefit to you. I also like how the wasteland was so much bigger and spread out in F3, but I did get used to everything being more condensed and intricate in NV. Overall, I did like F3 better, but for fucks sake, it wasn’t like it was god-made compared to NV.
I think that Fallout 3 is one of the best games i have ever played. And how it started was that i saw it online like 4 years back and said to myself hey this looks good. I now I got the game in 2010 on chirstmas break. One thing that i was looking forward was growing up as a kid into a teenager in the vault which some of you guys forgot to mention. And then you had your 10th birthday and you first pip-boy 3000. After growing up in the vault taking your test at the age of 16 which i forgot but anyways. Two years later you wake up and you notice your father is gone and is forced to leave the vault.
Taking my opinion else where. On like quests or speech in general you can make it so that the women that owns the supply shop in megatown can stop with her survival guide. In megatown the bomb in the center you can do three options arm the bomb, disarm the bomb (which i did) and you could tell the sheriff aboout the guy that gave you the thing to arm the bomb. These are one of the things that make the game so much better and also when i got the game the DLC were included so it made the game much better. Like getting abducted by aliens, being a slave to help the other slaves escape in the post-apocalyptic remains in Pittsburgh, be in a simulation that taks place in Alaska when Chinese invaders attack, then you could go to Piont Lookout that takes place in a murky swampland coast of Maryland.
And those are my reasons why this game should be the best in the Fallout series.
Fallout 3 all the way. I played through it like 10 times and I’d probably play throughout it another 10 times if I had nothing better to do. For me the most important thing in a game isn’t gameplay, graphics,sound and all that but story and background. In Fallout New Vegas, after killing Benny, it felt like I had nothing to do that would have any real meaning. The factions are far too mechanical and unnatural for my liking. I was more motivated by achievements than by the story since I had already killed Benny. If they had put more background on the courier in, maybe the story would have been more meaningful.
The Great war happened over 200 years ago people. For DC to still be in ruins after 200 years with so many scavengers is incredibly unrealistic, you people have no clue what the hell you’re talking about. Also you haven’t played FONV because the reason why the Mojave is not a nuclear wasteland as much as DC was because of Mr. House.
The reason New Vegas didn’t give you the entire life story of the courier is because they wanted YOU to make it. Also, when you talk to Johnson Nash in Primm, he said one guy turned down the job right after he saw your name. He said you must have had a HISTORY for him to act like that. Plus, you can also state whether or not you impregnated a woman in Montanna, ( Lol, its still something )as well as some other crap. Definitely New Vegas for guns. Anti-material rifle for the win! :D.
Fallout 3 anyday for setting. Feels WAY more like a nuclear wasteland than some plain old desert. Well, g2g :P.
I am shocked that Fallout 3 has such overwhelming support from most of you. While it was a great game, I strongly think it doesn’t even compare to New Vegas in most regards.
The story in Fallout 3 was very linear and quite boring. You could skip ahead easily and finish the game way too fast. Yeah, you did get a nice backstory for your character, but you had no choice in the matter. New Vegas gives you the opportunity to make up your own history, and play in that manner. Maybe some of us just have more imagination. In a sidenote, I think you could make a movie in the New Vegas setting, while Fallout 3 would make a bad movie (although almost all movies made from video games are terrible).
Having a variety of factions and individual relationships with all of them gave the world a much richer feel. Through my many playthroughs, I’ve really enjoyed changing all of my interactions with them and felt like it made the game seem like a real world. In Fallout 3 you were completing a quest, in New Vegas you’re actually living in the world.
I’m surprised to see a lot of support for the atmosphere of Fallout 3. I found the D.C. setting to be too filled with Americana references, and it got kind of old fast. The ruins of D.C. were annoying and got boring fast. While it does have a much more ruined post-war feeling, is that really much better? Nevada was a very rich and atmospheric landscape, and I thought kept enough of a barren vibe, it was interesting being in an area that wasn’t overly affected by the nuclear bombs of the war, but shaped by the aftermath of those events.
The S.P.E.C.I.A.L., Skills and Perks are more fine tuned and balanced in New Vegas. After a lot of time with Fallout 3, I was a bit disappointed by the lop-sidedness of the game. They’ve learned from their mistakes, and the game is so much better as a result.
Guns, items, etc. are way better in New Vegas, but I don’t think many people are arguing that.
As far as enemies go, I found New Vegas to be filled with more that I actually feared. Cazdor swarms still make me panic.
Actually adding Hardcore Mode into the game is great. I don’t have to download a mod anymore! Although I think some of you are confusing hardcore with hard; it’s not really the case. Hardcore mode just makes it a little more realistic. I think they should have made those things normal, and maybe on the easy setting you don’t have to worry about food, drink, and sleep. Ammo should always have weight. I’m half and half on the stimpacks.
If any of you played the first 2 Fallouts, I’m sure you can at least admit that New Vegas has more of their flavour and schematics. I have a feeling that after Fallout 3, Bethesda forced it’s development team to play Fallout 1 and 2 and get it back on that track. I know some people who hated Fallout 3 because they thought it was more like ‘Oblivion with guns’ than a new fallout game.
As I said, I really enjoyed Fallout 3 and still enjoy playing it. But I can’t think why it’s better than New Vegas. Except for the fact that it was much less buggy; New Vegas still has issues after many patches.
I’ve played both games to death and sorry to disagree. Fallout 3 has the better story and better atmosphere no contest. NV has more guns? who cares? How many weapons do you actually use? NV has more locations? gimme a break, a lot of ‘locations’ really are non locations as they offer nothing of interest. The strip in NV is just too tacky. In FO3 I wanted to keep playing after the final mission (yes you can with DLC). In NV I did not have the desire to keep playing. I certainly enjoyed NV but overall FO3 was by far the better game. Just opinions of course.
I can’t believe some people are saying the story in Fallout 3 is better.
“Atmosphere” is something subjective and taste based, but story can actually be judged by some objective standards, and by any objective measure New Vegas has a much better plot.
I felt that NV lacked on a more proper, brilliant story than fallout 3 and could have used more horror than F3. F3 was also way more challenging and much harder and the war torn D.C. was a brilliant setting in which everyone is fighting and there is choas.
I’m torn between the two. I mean, you can’t beat Fallout 3 in the atmosphere. While I enjoyed the Mojave Desert and found tons of cool things while exploring Fallout 3 had more to explore. I mean, who here hasn’t been to the Dunwich building? I think I spelt that wrong… But honestly, There isn’t any buildings in New Vegas that has that sense of fear and excitment. I miss the Enclave but the Brotherhood of Steel makes up for that. They aren’t good guys in New Vegas, The don’t want to help the locals get rid of the Death Claw infestation that’s only a mile away from them at best. The Brotherhood from DC would see that and try and help. And with New Vegas going into Vault 11 and finding out what went on there, walking to Jacobstown and finding SNOW! I found that alone to be one of the more breathtaking parts in New Vegas.
Now, story wise I have to say Fallout 3 wins. The bgining was fun, at least the first time, Tranquility Lane? I loved putting that mast on and killinh everyone. Seeing your dad die after you went through all the trouble of finding him sparks a personal grudge against the Enclave. Whether it’s because you feel for the character or simply because of all the trouble you went through just to have him die on you. And the end when you’re taking back project purity? …Meh. Liberty prime was cool but the fight at Hoover Dam in New Vegas beats this by a landslide.
Weapons. New Vegas wins this. The mods were fun and sometimes hard to find, the ammo was more difficult to get, and all and all there were just more than Fallout 3 had.
Gameplay. New Vegas. If it weren’t for Hardcore mode than I would have said Fallout but having to constantly have or find food and water makes the game more realistic. Plus it makes the Cannibal perk have a use.
Setting, Fallout 3. While New Vegas is beatiful it can’t beat exploring the DC ruins. Each area had it’s own uniqness to it and all and all it just felt so American! It really went into how strong the country is. After radiation basicaly screwed everyone in DC over they still love they’re country and thrive! Or, at least, sort of thrive. Makes you wonder how other countries are handling it.
Uh.. Insanity? If that’s gonna be a catagory than Fallout 3 wins. There were more ghouls and supermutants to keep you on your toes. Plus I’ve have far more enemies sneak up on me in Fallout 3 than in New Vegas.
Difficulty, New Vegas wins. Running into a Death Claw at level 1 is NOT my idea of easy. And there’s like, a nest of Cazadors right next to Goodsprings that I had a great time being killed by. Though I do miss running into the group of Supermutants.
Vaults. I hate to say it but Fallout 3. While nearly all of them look the same each ones have something unique about them. Vault 108 had Gary which just owns everything! Vault 91 I think made you see everyone from vault 101. And 106 had that damn door that I closed only to find out there was no fricken switch to open it back up from the inside! New Vegas is close though. Vault 11 had an eery feeling about it and you find out why after following a long foggy tunnel. Vault 16 I think was full of Powder Gangers… Cool vault but I never really had the chance to socialize with the inhabitants. Suffice it to say New Vegas has more creative vaults but few of them made me want to go back to re explore. Infact I cringed whne I had to go back to some.
Winner IMO. Fallout 3. I enjoy both games and play them both with a raging fire burning in my soul but Fallout 3 just has more than Vegas does… Oh, and currently Fallout 3 kicks Vegas’s ass when you throw DLC’s in the mix.
f3 wins …i cant play through nv …i cant get past the 7th mission because its so story lacking …it feels pointless …in f3 everything was for you in nv you have to do pointless shit for other people …i hate it …it should have been DLC instead of a whole new game… i have the collectors addition of both FTR …but all in all f3 wins
WoW This Comparison Is So HomoSexual
Things I miss about F3
Your companions saying things at random…not just when scoring a kill(ie Jericho: Am I outta smokes again?!)
Loved Fawkes quotesbut left him in megaton because he made things too easy. “The air smells….dangerous….”
love it.
Fact is they are both awesome games with hours of enjoyment to be had. That being said, the factions alone put my vote for New Vegas. In F3 their are four types of enemies; Mutated animals, Mutated people(Super Mutants & Ghouls), Raiders & The Enclave. It makes more sense for their to be rival gangs fighting for their piece of the pie. Also I love the choices you can make, in F3 you really only get 1 choice help the BoS defeat the Enclave. In NV you can side with NCR or Caesar’s Legion or somewhere in between. They are both very good games and I wont be selling ether one any time soon.
On a side note I don’t know whether anyone else has this problem but my copy of NV in the first person view the gun/arms is always doing this thing where it’s not centered right and it’s very distracting! I thought one of the many patches would have fixed it by now but no go as of 2/21/2011
I for one thought that NV didn’t have the horror element that F3 brought to the table. I remember coming along Super Mutant camps with hostages and flesh bags in F3, but in NV all I come across are different factions that’ll treat you differently depending upon what you’ve done lately. In F3, I felt like there was more of a dire need to survive and a better basis for the morality structure. You could either side with slavers, or free the slaves. Protect the ghouls, or do Tenpenny’s dirty work. I felt like F3 was just much more intricate and therefore satisfied me better.
The main reason why NV doesn’t look much like the Wasteland as D.C. did is because the East Coast was hit harder with nuclear bombing compared to the West Coast.
Bethesda made a huge mistake releasing NV when they did. in my opinion that game needs alot of work and was simply released to make money. i love the elder scrolls and fallout but there are other games in the world. bethesda rushed the release of new vegas knowing everyone who was captivated by F3 would buy it, and lets be serious how could you not expect NV to be amazing. With F3 as amazing as it was NV was destined to be great but it was premature. the changes and guns were amazing but patience is a virtue that bethesda most definitly forgot about.
My advice to Bethesda wouldve been hold onto NV i could wait for it if it meant it would feel like f3. what they shouldve done is worked on it until 2012, they shouldve released it then after half a decade of wait it would be amazing. in the meantime they couldve released Elders scrolls: Skyrim and had an alternating game release. oblivion, F3, Skyrim, NV. that wouldve been an epic win streak for bethesda.
for the record the 8 DLC thing is BULLS*** theirs no way NV needs to be a $140 game. i just dont understand y theyd do that. $60 plus 8!!!! $10 DLCs that just ridiculous. Skyrim better be the most amazing game hit the 360 since F3 or im dont with bethesda.
from the last comment: Bethesda made … My advice to Bethesda
F: NV is NOT a Bethesta release.
about F:3 vs F: NV: Fallout 3 is clearly a better game.
And … well, OBSIDIAN’s F: NV is cool, ofc, but it just builds from the strong support Bethesda’s hard work.
New Vegas is the bettter game. My biggest issue with FO3 was how unrealistic it was.
200 years in the future and no one had restablished any sort of civilization?
Subway tunnels were the only way to get to certain areas of DC but the tunnels were choked full of feral ghouls, raiders, etc. How did anything get to those areas without cleaning out the subway first?
Also, why couldn’t I side with the Enclave? It was just like Oblivion – the bad guys are faceless, evil and only there to be killed. How is that good story telling?
If Obsidian had made FO3, we would have had factions competing over the water purification technology. The enclave, the brotherhood, the force behind the super mutants, maybe rich tenpenny, with the fate of the balance in the hands of the player.
Instead everything is black, white and narrow. The game devolvings in exploring, killing and looting. There is no depth or choice in the story at all. It is basically on a rail.
Also, FO3 is completely broken in regards to character development. You can develop your character to have no short comings. Wield guns, big guns, energy weapons with great accurancy while also becoming nearly a doctor with maxed out medical. And don’t forget your awesome locking picking and computer hacking skills. Plus multiple bobble heads to further nerf the whole process.
In NV you get a true story with choices and consequences. Your player development has trade offs, which effect the story line as well. The monsters are sidelined as humanity is reclaiming its heritage and you get to decide who wins. It is the better game.
Id just like to add that I thoroughly enjoyed FO3. However, like Oblivion, I eventually tired of it for all the reasons above. In my opinion, NV is the better game.
Thanks to all those people liking FO3 over NV makes me be sure about something:
We won’t have any other good Fallout game after NV.
To me fallout 3 will always be the better game. Fallout 3 was my first ever fallout game. To me the most memorable thing out of that game were those first steps out of vault 101 into a true wasteland. In my eyes nothing will ever be equal to fallout 3. I loved it all. The story, the combat, and most of all, fawkes. In fallout 3 you are born and grow up in a vault. Your father escapes when you are about 19 and you have to go off and find him. On my journey I saw so many thing, places, and people that made the game so memorable. Little Lamplight was really cool and who could forget three dog? There was just so much that made the game so good. It will probably always be my favorite game of all time.
Don’t get me wrong, fallout new vegas is a great game. The armory I had amassed by the end of the game was so big and awesome I had trouble using one gun over another. The story was very good. I especially liked how there were four different endings to the game. Reputation was also a very good thing that fallout 3 didn’t have. At the end of the game you got to hear the fates of all the factions, towns, and people you had encountered along the way which was very nice.
There can only be one winner though, which to me is and will always be fallout 3. Whenever I hear a song from fallout 3 I think of a place in the capital wasteland (the real wasteland). Both games had very good soundtracks (blue moon, jingle jangle jingle, and I don’t want to set the world on fire were all added to my ipod because of these games) and I really enjoyed them. New vegas just doesn’t hold up to fallout 3 though. The so called Mojave “Wasteland” isn’t a wasteland at all and doesn’t even hold a candle to the Capital Wasteland. I often find myself wanting to play fallout 3 when I play new vegas. Fallout 3 was just such a great and iconic game to me that I can’t see any game besting it. And it actually makes me sad sometimes to know that there will never be a fallout as a good as fallout 3 to me.
Damn I wrote a lot!
Fallout 3. Love it. Although New Vegas was badass I found it was only so during the early run, when you got to the strip and confronted Benny the game takes a huge turn and it branches off into the main quests for the cornucopia of factions in the Mojave. And that my friends is what bugged me. It just suddenly became open-ended, if you go one path of one faction you’re cut off from the other factions. More or less. It wasn’t really about the player (Courier) going their own way, seeking their own path but more of being forced to pick a side and sticking with it the remainder of the game.
I loved Fallout 3 because it was all one giant main quest line, it’s not like NV where it’s so open ended, but no matter how you progress the game it all leads to the penultimate scene. It’s like as if the multiple branches of the main quest delve back into itself, so that it still remains somewhat linear.
Fallout 3, no matter how you play it, you will still have the same basic outline. You search for your father, fight the enclave and deal with the purifier. The story though will always be different though depending on how you play it, for example, as a good guy you can turn on the purifier, but if you’re going bad karma you can side with Eden and tamper with it. Whereas in NV it’s basically 4 different stories in one game.
TL;DR?? Fallout 3 is great as it has a single storyline that you can shape to your liking. NV forces you to experience the game from different views for each playthrough. My preference is to F3.
oh come on fallout 3 is made from from pieces of story from fallout 1 and 2 that is why its story is so unique
they took the best parts form the old game , and now everyone is like “this guys at Bethesda are so creative
want proof ?take it :
-leaving the vault (fo1)
-quest for water (fo1)
-helping vault 101 in the “trouble on the home front ” quest ,and Amata kicks you out (fo1)
-fight with super mutants (fo1)
-fight with enclave (fo2)
-find the g.e.c.k. (fo2)
I do love the game but why its not obedient to the source material FO1 and FO2 (no not the fact that is build from pieces of story set in a different location ) it should have been a prequel to FO2 but it doesn’t have any
kind of similarity with it .brotherhood has different armor that looks like is made of scrap metal rather than pre-war technology , enclave has different armor , there is not a single gun from the old games , it is more a FPS than RPG .
Alright, Im going to start of by saying if you were like me and u didn’t know weather to buy or rent NV at first and u rented and made a good choice…THEN I AM VERY PROUD OF U!!! :)
when i first say a commercial for fallout 3 in the middle of christmas in the year of 2008 i said “wow this looks so much different then my copy of call of duty 4, MOM I KNOW WHAT I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS!”
i instantly got a copy from my parents, it took many months of playing this game slumped over in the basement wit the lights off. i can say that fallout 3 really blew me away with the whole feeling of how to survive in a very gritty and disturbing enviorment. I felt the effects of being around depressing and sick individuals. i felt the emotions very well and some parts had me shed a tear. i felt like i was playing a video game for the movie “The Road”. I like that this game had a feeling that was like no other, and made u feel like u were living somewhere else and u had to save yourself for a reason…..
not like New Vegas, where everything was fine! The people was fine, the enviorment was fine, hell nothing can get more corny then this! -__-
omg i am so glad i rented this, cuz i would of went back to Ebgames and yelled at the manager. i can’t believe that the production label even decided to put this on the shelves, cuz if i were a producer i would of said “go fuck yourself because your fired” this is a disgrace to fallout gamers i was totally disappointed. I’m not even going to go on and rant about the flaws on this, im sure all u readers get the picture.
Do yourself a favor and just rent the game or borrow it from a friend, im sure u will understand what i say when in 15.5 minutes of the game…just saying:)
-Jonnyboy
If fallout 3 had the same feature as NV, FO3 will stomp on NV. hard.
settings
i like the DC ruins better than mojave. the mojave is not a wasteland. it’s just abandoned desert, just like nowadays, except much more people do it.
each place and settlements in fallout 3 is unique. Megaton with generally good people but some are weirdos worshiping a atom bomb. Big town and Arefu is defenseless settlement, almost like ‘wtf I could kill you all in 3 minutes’. Andale is a creepy yet corny settlement like in an old horror movies. Tenpenny towers is a ‘capitalist, wasteland style’. and so on.
NV. uuh, yeah. Goodsprings with western style. ok that’s only the unique settlement. the rest are outpost, camp, abandoned farm, and a heck of big city with casinos. tho my favorite is the lone drifter campfire site.
storyline
NV storyline, though it was good, it gets rather boring after you found benny and retained the chip. it’s like ‘choose your faction’. I don’t want became a conqueror. i want became mailman again.
Fallout 3 quest, i admit, a bit bland at some points but in some point they were very good, (tranquilty lane and the liberty prime retake jefferson memorial. he rocks lol. shame something happened to him)
Weapons and items
well, NV wins. not all, but some. sure there are 5.56mm AP and 5.56mm FMJ. but in reality, you spent 90% of the bullets with FMJ. the AP and HP type. there are many craftable things in NV but never really touch some of them, like poisons, some type of food and tanned hide. especially if you’re not using hardcore mode. some of them are useful tho.
fallout maybe didn’t have assault carbine and .357 revolver, but the 7 craftables items are really useful, from homemade railway rifle to deadly homemade deathclaw gauntlets
the storyline
in fallout 3, you were born and grow, though a bit brief.you are what character you played.
in NV, you are a courier got shot in the head. the question is, why the heck you care?? in fallout, people shot in the head is a daily things happened
conclusion
though I played fallout 3 longer than my NV, i enjoyed both with their plus and flaws. I like to scour ruins for ammo in FO3 and killing something every 100 m. and I like how the quest in NV really left you many choices.
OK , so I have played both F3 and FNV and even touched into the originals but I couldn’t play 1 or 2 much because of the OS I played on and I’m not that good with OS compat to fix it , but anyway.
Character:
In fallout 3 , you wake up as an infant and you can see your character grow up around you , and how attached to your dad you are. In New Vegas , you are left with this ‘ courier ‘ who you know nothing about and you are just expected to care about him. In fallout 3 I knew what my character was feeling when he learned his father had left the vault ect. so the winner is fallout 3
Map / premise / staging
In fallout 3 , you leave the vault and you see the post apocalyptic landscape with not a soul in sight for a good while. you know that this place is very hostile and a normal person couldn’t survive here. You are encouraged to use Megaton as a base to explore and do quests while in new vegas you are placed in a land where you can survive and as long as you find a town you are in no danger. The problem with that is that it throws away the superior premise of surviving and getting to gris with the world and brings in this ‘struggle for power ‘ one which has been used in way too many RPGs and shooters , and the exited feeling of coming across a town to trade with is gone. In fallout 3 you have 2 topns you are able to resupply (not counting that hotel ) while in new vegas you can trade at any old town , and there is around 10-15 towns you can do this with.
Also , like said above you are encouraged to properly free roam in 3 while in NV you are funnled through scripted encounters and towns where you have to act good and mighty to get the best stuff , making allying with the legion very hard untill you are funnled to New Vegas. The staging is just horrible because it is there in NV , not to mention the cheery landscape.
FACTIONS
Well , I have to give credit to NV for a better storyline choice but we are talking about the factions not ‘ which you can choose ‘.IN fallout 3 , you have 3-5 factions , and only the brotherhood and enclave to play with ( with DLC )
The brother hood are depicted as this rebel group who exhibit force even though they are rebels themselves. They are the knights in gray , who fight for the people while there counter parts , the loyal outcasts , fight for the ‘ greater good ‘ and ignore the people while working towards rebuilding society. This gives a small but good contrast , as even though you can’t really join the outcasts you can empathise with them and you can se both sides of the argument. Same with the enclave , but they are a bit more evil for the sake of giving the story a good villain group. In NV , the brotherhood have more of the outcast point of view , segregating them selves for science. This is a good change , but then comes the legion and other groups. The legion are portrayed as this group of uber nazi communists who only want to destroy , with no depth what so ever , and only for players that want to be evil for the fun of it , with no understandable point of view and no good intentions , only greed and cruelty. This , combined with the fact that the roleplay as early AD romans make them a laughing stock , with no connection to any other group apart from the marvel league of doom.
Gameplay
Now , this is most likely the most balanced section as I am stumped at this one , so I will point out the pros and cons of each.
F3
PROS
Good enemy types and placement of enemies ,
Came up with FP version of VATS
Good guns
A lot of innovative ideas such as explosive environment in cars ect.
Cons
Buggy
No iron sights
FNV
PROS
Iron sights
A lot of good improvements to weapons and armor
CONS
So very annoying health scaling , as if a human was a boss or hard enemy (s)he would take several shots to the head , ignoring basic biology.
Bad enemies and placement
STORY (without DLCs)
OK , so in F3 you are sent out to look for your father , coming across many horrifing sights and what the war had done for the world , as you find your dad you find out that he has plans to make the wasteland a better place , which ends with a sacrifice for the good of the wasteland.
In FNV , you are sent to deliever a package as a normal survivor and you barely avoid death. You go on a vigilante mission to find out who wanted you dead and what is going on. On your way to the local city , New vegas , you encounter the many towns and villages that are under pressure from political fights and the squabbling for power , as you find out you have been sucked into the fight for power yourself.
Fallout 3. Just better . Not much else to say.
NV is not a bad game at any angle but it is not as good as the bethseda instalment. I had fun playing both and I still enjoy the franchise as a whole.
im tired of everybody saying thats NV is better because of faction and that F3 dosnt have factions when it does and thier just not labeled as factions. just like in NV you could side with good or bad.
With the brokensteel dlc you can choose to blowup the citadel siding with the enclave or save it.
you can even do the president edens mission changing the end of the game
you could choose to save the gouls by letting them in tennpenny tower or kill them.
Im also tired of every body saying its unrealistic because because its been 200 years and they coulnt rebuild entire citys when realy its not because you would have to find supplys to rebuild while fending off attacking creatures while also scavenging supplys to sustaine the whole town
fallout new vegas makes me miss elder scrolls and fallout 3
All opinions are subjective … it’s just a matter of what appeals to you the most … personally I prefer fallout 2 amongst all other installations of the series … but if it comes down to comparing fallout 3 to New Vegas I would say it’s a tie, and this is a purely neutral opinion deprived of all subjectivity … Like with most new installations , they do their best to correct the mistakes found in the previous versions , conserve the best aspects it had and eliminate the lesser positive aspects to introduce new features … but with an RPG like fallout 3 , even the lesser positive aspects matter, at times lot more than the better aspects of the game like gameplay and story … In gothic 2 , one of my personal favorite sandbox rpgs, I would always see a man take a wee next to a militia tower in the early morning, and see all the hunters gather around either the brothel or a free pint table in the town square … the faction you chose effected all your quests and awarding items, you could even become a fire mage, a mercenary or a paladin … and all factions provided you with a different manor of playing and engaging the world … fire mage are mostly secluded , mercenaries are hated by paladins and vice versa … and to me , that alongside the many memorable characters it had , made the game a true jewel .. although it was overwhelmed with bugs and the gameplay wasn’t really top notch … and I’m sure that whoever plays fallout 2 is guaranteed to truly witness the greatness of the fallout series more than both fallout 3 or new vegas can ever portray it .
NV picked up where fallout 3 lacked but dropped what fallout 3 excelled in
In my opinion i prefer f nv because of all of the ,mods,ammo,and quests but on fo3 its like Wow i nuked a town (megaton) but only the inside was affected so i prefer f nv
I think fallout 3 is better for a couple of reasons:
1. Travelling through the metro tunnels was scary as shit!
2. Behemoths
3. The brotherhood of steel are awesome in Fallout 3
4. the alien blaster ;-)
5. Playing NV makes me pine for the gritty, grim apocolyptic wasteland of DC
6. Easier to 1000GP
New Vegas is top notch and i love the ending when it summarises all of your achievements throughout the game, but Fallout 3 was truly special for me.
People who are saying Fallout 3 probably never played Fallout 1 or 2. The writing in 3 is shit, frankly. Bethesda can’t write as good a plot as Black Isle or their successor Obsidian ever could. And if you never played the first two, you don’t even get the awesome references to the older Black Isle games (example, the singer in the hotel who “plowed” Mr. Bishop’s daughter, this was something you could do in Fallout 2 when you went to New Reno). Finally, there is the fact that it actually continues the story of the previous Fallout games, with the continuing development of the NCR. Much of New Vegas was based on the old cancelled Fallout 3 (aka Van Buren), such as Caesar’s Legion and the Powder Gangers. In fact, I’d go as far to say that Fallout New Vegas was what Fallout 3 should have been, an old school Fallout fan’s dream come true, while Bethesda’s Fallout 3 was merely Oblivion with guns and atomic weapons. Very cool, sure, but not Fallout.
You people who argue in favour of Fallout 3 have got your heads up your rear ends. You enjoyed Fallout 3 very much and thus expected/desired more of the same from Fallout NV. When Fallout NV did not give you exactly the same experience as Fallout 3, you thought it was an inferior game. The entire setting and story of NV is different , so obciously the whole experience needs to be different. It takes place in an area not affected by bombs, but which became lawless, distopian and dysfunctional due to the effects of the apocalypse. The game world in NV has the correct atmosphere to suite this new angle.
If the two games are to be compared it should be done in terms of an objective analysis of the game mechanics of each as well as the subjective experience people had while playing these two games.
In the objective/technical category Fallout NV is 5 TIMES BETTER THAN Fallout 3 and anyone who disagrees is delusional and in need of psychiatric examination.
Fallout NV has:
-Better weapon mechanics
-Better unarmed mechanics
-Better survival mechanics (the clutter scattered across the wasteland actually has a purpose, you need to eat and drink to live and every single item can be used to craft something. In Fallout 3 there was an abundance of stuff that had no point.)
-Loads of craftable consumables and weapons, bombs, ammo etc.
-A MUCH better designed wasteland, with a much better placement of important locations, spread out nicely across the whole map, vs too much pointless open space in Fallout 3 with no incentive to go there.)
-Limited visibility thanks to good geography in the broken up NV wasteland just makes the place feel huge. In fallout 3 one can see too far into the distance which revealed too much nothingness.
-Quests well spread out over the map and following the main quest line exposs you to many distractions, whereas many people ended up inadvertently finishing Fallout 3, to their very unpleasant surprise.
-Loads more weapons and quests
-There actually is choice, vs the illusion of choice in Fallout 3
-Better placement of enemies – placing higher level enemies at certain points of the map provides incentive for the player to look for sidequests, so he/she may return later when they are stronger. This is a much more realistic approach.
-General better game design. Fallout 3 the Enclave barely arrived and then they were gone – defeated.
I don’t want too waste too much time on this site, so I’ll move to the next category:
Subjective experience:
Sure, Fallout 3 had the wow factor – the mind boggling experience of entering into that gloomy wasteland. it was scary, it sucked me in completely. Getting lost in the hospital on the way to Rivet City and hiding in the shadows of the patient rooms from alerted supermutants after having blown one of them to pieces with a bottlecap mine and encountering the awesomeness of a mirelurk hunter the first time was but two of the most entensely pleasurable experiences i’ve ever had. Fallout new Vegas perhaps lacked in this respect, because we’ve already had our “first time” with Fallout 3. So with New Vegas, you just jumped in to the familiar. But I enjoyed Fallout NV just more in the end. I love deserts, living here in the Namib, and the “fullness” and detail of the game was incredible. Fallout 3 just felt somewhat empty in comparison, but granted, it was perhaps intended to be a shorter game. I actually haven’t even Finished New Veags yet – I’m still playing, thanks to mods. Have yet to side with a faction and it’s already two years since I purchased the game!
Thus, people will have differing opinions on which game they enjoyed more. We all have different taste. But there are people out there that will have prefered the world of New Vegas to fallout 3, and combined with the fact that New Vegas is OBJECTIVELY the technically better designed game, means that NEW VEGAS is the definite, overall WINNER and also the best game ever made, for that matter.
Fallout NV > Fallout 3 (at least 5 timesbetter in terms of game design.)
Do not even attempt to dispute this.
I am going to dispute it.
Better melee mechanics is definitely in favor of FNV, but come one the weapons may be abundant but most of them are complete garbage. At least in FO3 you could play through most of the game with which ever weapon you wanted for the most part. The unique weapons are lame in NV there are too many of them, they are easy to find, and they really aren’t even that better from the original gun.
Survival mechanics are pretty b.s in NV its so easy to make money and hardcore mode is just annoying rather than surviving. And speaking of stuff that has no point NV is the master of this. there tons of items that serve no purpose, but the crafting is better I will admit. (I do like NV a lot btw). At least in FO3 you could make unique weapons which had items in them that were hard to find for the most part. And you could use them all as ammo for the rock it launcher!!
Ads was nice but it doesn’t add much for me honestly.
The weapons in NV are completely over powered when you get to the good weapons. It kind of ruins the combat.
Im going to call B.s on the landscape. Yeah there are mountains which make the game seem like its bigger, but its super annoying when you have to walk around a giant path to get somewhere close by. (very liberal use of invisible walls).
The quests are kinda lame in NV there may be a ton of them, but they are not really that fun. its a lot of talking and doing stupid tasks for people rather than doing some dangerous mission that makes you feel like a badass lol.
FO3 may have had a very spread out map, but at least when you got to the destination there was something fun waithing for you, most the areas in NV are outposts and the looting requires no searching because everything is pretty much laid out in the open. Also there are SO MANY buildings that you can’t go in, the vegas ruins are boring and there are very little buildings to explore, and there are many other buildings that would be great fun to check out and put hostiles in but instead they are blocked e.g Air port near crashed vertibird, primm, nipton, to name a few.
If you play the main quest in NV you will find the game is short.. ***spoiler**** you get to NV and kill benny, (the most exciting part of the game) then you talk to a “boss” and check out a bunch of little settlements do a quest to gain their trust or jst kill them and then you assassinate someone or dont, then you fight the battle and its over. going to the factions just takes a long time because they are so far away in corners that it takes awhile to get there, only to kill some ants or run around looking for people and talking to them.
For all the people who compared FO1 & 2,
I would say that the over abundance of Americana is definitely part of the franchise. Both games are pretty grim and dark with occasional bright areas which are still pretty run down. NV overly bright, freeside is just about as bright or brighter and happier than any other place in FO1 or 2 there aren’t even gaurds or crime except for some retard who always tries to get me when I go past mick and ralphs!!!! And FO2 is largly based around the enclave which is barely exsistant in NV. There is no NCR in FO3 because its not in f%^^ing california, BoS is barely a part of the game. There may be cool references, and that is really awesome, but I think FO3 is more like what FO1 & 2 would be if you were playing through the eyes of the character. I think the D.c wasteland gets more and more like nercopolis as you venture furthure into the heart. Where is that in NV. Where is an area like the Glow in NV? At least in FO3 there were extreme places like this rather than a hold in a mountain with a weird animal in it. With regard to the writting in the game, when I walk through any populated area I literally hear the people saying the exact same thing over and over, not to mention the fake talking noise they have in areas. If I kill everyone the place should be completely dead quiet. FO3 had great writting ! the characters may have been alittle one densional, but there are just more one demensional characters in NV.
I think the illusion of choice appears in NV more than three. I didn’t think there was much choice in three, but the choices you made were pretty substantial. Do i contaminate the purifier and kill a bunch of people? Blow up megaton? Tranquility lane? It progresses. In NV you have four sides with the same quests and 3 out of the 4 endings are same less legion. either you kill them or join them. and in the end you kill a general and call it a day after the battle at the dam which is extremely lacking in comparison to the final battle at the end of 3.
the easter eggs were much harder to find in 3 and much more enjoyable e.g plunger room, fire lance, teddy bear in a cage that summons behemoth.
And the game mechanics are not that much better if not worse in NV, the game gets super glitchy and I have to quit and restart almost often enough to piss me off, 3 was bad too, but it wasn’t as bad.
3 had a better radio
Fallout 3 wins. I love all fallout games including NV but 3 is just more fun.
this is to mr. rights comment
are you retarted obviously new vegas has better graphics, weopon systems, etc. but as far as story new vegas sucks, you can skip half the story and there are a bunch of pointless locations pluss it favors the ncr because you can have all companions with them you cant have 2 with the legion in fallout 3 it was based on karma. pluss in fallout 3 you feel motivated to find your dad and finish his work unlike new vegas where once you kill benny your like why should i give a shit can i just get my money and leave.
i love both games i beat fallout 3 twice and new vegas three times (simply because there are more endings) and fallout 3 is my favorite game ever i love bethesda and all there games but fallout 3 is by far the best
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